Comments on: SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) Deprecated.

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Sun, 24 Sep 2006 01:16:32 +0000

[…] I may have killed SVG off too soon, or at least taken an “Adobe-centric” view; and AndrewS comments that Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) and Flash is bogus. Reading some of the posts from the FlashForward Conference, the current, modern mechanism is to use SWFObject. Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. […]

By: hodgenick

hodgenick — Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:29:48 +0000

Andrew

I agree on your comments on Flash. Give me XML where you can choose your backend engines to do cool stuff.

SVG could have replicated PDF.

SVG gunna, coulda, woulda and shoulda.

Missed opportunity.

Nick

By: hodgenick

hodgenick — Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:27:35 +0000

My point is that SVG was a missed opportunity by Adobe to “do something special” with graphics. I love the technology.

I don’t disagree that it’s a good thing that SVG is a W3C standard; nor that the W3C has deprecated the standard.

My lament is that Adobe has deprecated the standard.

Now Adobe (nor Adobe + Macromedia) is the be-all-and-end-all of graphics in the browser; just that strong support from either company with some smart applications could have moved the standard on as far as development and “richness” much quicker.

Where are the builders? Where are the multitude of developers? Where is the many online examples? Where is AJAX+SVG momentum? Where is SVG in IE7?

SVG has retreated into a corner of the world; isolated having missed is potential place in the world.

Native browser support on 90+% of the world’s browsers would be cool.

Nick

By: Andrew Smith

Andrew Smith — Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:09:32 +0000

My great bleeding question was “why isn’t it supported in browsers?”. If MSIE supported it natively (no plug-in required) then I would have jumped at the chance to have crisp vector graphics on a web page.

Yes you can do it with Flash, but it’s a barren wasteland as far as search engines are concerned.

Just one of those things I never understood as to why (not).

Andrew

By: Antoine Quint

Antoine Quint — Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:17:13 +0000

I think you’re mistaken about Adobe’s announcement. Adobe said that they will discontinue support for their SVG Viewer plug-in starting January 2007 and cease distribution in January 2008. Even though the Adobe SVG Viewer was the first significant browser plug-in for rendering SVG content, it has now become aged in the light of native browser support in the likes of Mozilla browsers (Firefox and Camino), Opera and upcoming versions of WebKit-based browsers (Safari, OmniWeb). The missing piece of course is Internet Explorer, but Microsoft have been dropping strong hints throughout the community that they will provide native support of SVG too.

So, there is absoutely no deprecation of SVG. SVG is a W3C standard, it was never the property of Adobe and will never be the sole property of any corporation. If anything, the momentum around SVG has grown since native browser support is upon us.

Regards,

Antoine