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	<title>Comments on: Going Postal over Bandwidth</title>
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		<title>By: Bronwen Zande</title>
		<link>http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/2069/comment-page-1#comment-42385</link>
		<dc:creator>Bronwen Zande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah..broadband sux...we have Telstra Cable, and Internode ASDL2 cause John and I have a virtual office and we can&#039;t reliable both be on skype..or have one on the VOIP engin phone and the other on skype or downloading a big file. So we need internet each..and they have to be different companies cause noone supports having 2 connections at the same address!

Need cable for the download (as exchange is so far away we get slow download from adsl2) and have the adsl2 so i can upload my pics etc at something faster than 128k

We also have nextg phones...but the data prices are stupidly expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah..broadband sux…we have Telstra Cable, and Internode ASDL2 cause John and I have a virtual office and we can’t reliable both be on skype..or have one on the VOIP engin phone and the other on skype or downloading a big file. So we need internet each..and they have to be different companies cause noone supports having 2 connections at the same address!</p>
<p>Need cable for the download (as exchange is so far away we get slow download from adsl2) and have the adsl2 so i can upload my pics etc at something faster than 128k</p>
<p>We also have nextg phones…but the data prices are stupidly expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: hodgenick</title>
		<link>http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/2069/comment-page-1#comment-41321</link>
		<dc:creator>hodgenick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard

The lack of suppliers, and lack of a true free market due to political pressure has resulted in poor service for all Australians. To our detriment in this online century.

It is little wonder that with the lack of VC funding, server farms and bandwidth in this country that the key startups leave.

Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard</p>
<p>The lack of suppliers, and lack of a true free market due to political pressure has resulted in poor service for all Australians. To our detriment in this online century.</p>
<p>It is little wonder that with the lack of VC funding, server farms and bandwidth in this country that the key startups leave.</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/2069/comment-page-1#comment-41279</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just returned from living in Amsterdam, the Netherlands where I had a fibre optic connection and unlimited bandwidth. Price differentation in NL was on speed not MB&#039;s. Interesting alternative approach to broadband.

I see internet as a necessary part of life and do not see how throttling or shaping is a necessary evil. Why not just buy some extra MB for the month rather than having to convert to a higher priced plan. I have seen the UNWIRED wireless providor has this facility. It is only pricing and what the customer and the suppliers think they can get away with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just returned from living in Amsterdam, the Netherlands where I had a fibre optic connection and unlimited bandwidth. Price differentation in NL was on speed not MB’s. Interesting alternative approach to broadband.</p>
<p>I see internet as a necessary part of life and do not see how throttling or shaping is a necessary evil. Why not just buy some extra MB for the month rather than having to convert to a higher priced plan. I have seen the UNWIRED wireless providor has this facility. It is only pricing and what the customer and the suppliers think they can get away with.</p>
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		<title>By: Will&#8217;s Blog - Broadband, Bandwidth, and Data Costs</title>
		<link>http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/2069/comment-page-1#comment-40548</link>
		<dc:creator>Will&#8217;s Blog - Broadband, Bandwidth, and Data Costs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted in IT, Randomness by Will on September 1, 2007.  Last night, Nick Hodge had a rant about slow broadband, a lack of competition and government interference in the whole mess. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] Posted in IT, Randomness by Will on September 1, 2007.  Last night, Nick Hodge had a rant about slow broadband, a lack of competition and government interference in the whole mess. […]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/2069/comment-page-1#comment-40309</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;ll be unsurprised to hear me cry &quot;money is the root of evil!&quot; ;) http://weblog.200ok.com.au/2006/12/money-is-choking-australias.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you’ll be unsurprised to hear me cry “money is the root of evil!” <img src='http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  <a href="http://weblog.200ok.com.au/2006/12/money-is-choking-australias.html" rel="nofollow">http://weblog.200ok.com.au/2006/12/money-is-choking-australias.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave - Lifekludger</title>
		<link>http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/2069/comment-page-1#comment-40299</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave - Lifekludger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sic &#039;em Rex!

I learnt long ago that technology is never the problem, policy is!

Uncle Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sic ‘em Rex!</p>
<p>I learnt long ago that technology is never the problem, policy is!</p>
<p>Uncle Dave</p>
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		<title>By: NathanaelB</title>
		<link>http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/2069/comment-page-1#comment-40297</link>
		<dc:creator>NathanaelB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right - the state of broadband is akin to owning my now deceased 1985 Subaru Leone.

I could no longer afford the risk to business of owning an unreliable piece of junk, so I upgraded to what I have now - a 2002 Mini Cooper S :-)

However in regards to connectivity we have no such option; we&#039;re stuck with the 1985 Subaru Leone.

Don&#039;t get me started on iBurst - that has caused me some major grief in the past ... it shouldn&#039;t be legal to charge for that service it&#039;s that unreliable. Don&#039;t give me your crap about service range, weather conditions ... I paid for ******* wifi and I want ******* wifi; not this nonsense where I have to stand on the roof of my car and perch the laptop on my head to get dial-up speeds.

Oh and don&#039;t get my started on Telstra GPRS either - that&#039;s even worse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re right — the state of broadband is akin to owning my now deceased 1985 Subaru Leone.</p>
<p>I could no longer afford the risk to business of owning an unreliable piece of junk, so I upgraded to what I have now — a 2002 Mini Cooper S <img src='http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However in regards to connectivity we have no such option; we’re stuck with the 1985 Subaru Leone.</p>
<p>Don’t get me started on iBurst — that has caused me some major grief in the past … it shouldn’t be legal to charge for that service it’s that unreliable. Don’t give me your crap about service range, weather conditions … I paid for ******* wifi and I want ******* wifi; not this nonsense where I have to stand on the roof of my car and perch the laptop on my head to get dial-up speeds.</p>
<p>Oh and don’t get my started on Telstra GPRS either — that’s even worse!</p>
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		<title>By: hodgenick</title>
		<link>http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/2069/comment-page-1#comment-40294</link>
		<dc:creator>hodgenick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will

Thanks for the clarification. Certainly made the FTTN debate a little more understandable.

My thinking is that competition in the consumer end of the market should drive the price to the market price for bandwidth. Australia, due to its location in comparison to &quot;the world&quot; will probably make our bandwidth costs higher than comparative markets.

However, we&#039;re stalled at the gate.

My rant isn&#039;t aimed at any one party: government, Telstra, G-9 or the vibe.

It&#039;s just an emotional rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification. Certainly made the FTTN debate a little more understandable.</p>
<p>My thinking is that competition in the consumer end of the market should drive the price to the market price for bandwidth. Australia, due to its location in comparison to “the world” will probably make our bandwidth costs higher than comparative markets.</p>
<p>However, we’re stalled at the gate.</p>
<p>My rant isn’t aimed at any one party: government, Telstra, G-9 or the vibe.</p>
<p>It’s just an emotional rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/2069/comment-page-1#comment-40293</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Personal Disclaimer - These views are not those of my employer) 

Hey Nick, 

The FTTN concept is that you&#039;re bringing the DSLAM closer to the user. Therefore you&#039;re more likely to get that ideal 24Mbit downstream from your ADSL2+ connection.  Once you&#039;ve got the DSLAM that close, you can also look at using VDSL2 in the future for much higher bandwidth (100Mbit @ 500m, 50Mbit @ 1000m).  It&#039;s also a stepping stone to providing Fibre to the Home even further down the track (replace DSLAMs with DWDM Optical Routers and splitters). 

The approach being proposed by Telstra would have made it very difficult and expensive for competitors to provide their own DSLAMs using Telstra&#039;s copper network. 
Depending upon your point of view, that&#039;s either a good thing (&quot;Competitors should build their own network!&quot;) or a terrible thing (&quot;The Australian people owned the network until recently, we should be able to use whatever provider we like&quot;)

I&#039;m of the opinion that regardless of how the network debate turns out - the hidden issue is the cost of data.  

Even if we all magically had 100Mbit ethernet connections at home tomorrow, and only paid for data transferred; Very few of us could afford to use it for those promised high-bandwidth applications - HD Video on Demand and such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Personal Disclaimer — These views are not those of my employer) </p>
<p>Hey Nick, </p>
<p>The FTTN concept is that you’re bringing the DSLAM closer to the user. Therefore you’re more likely to get that ideal 24Mbit downstream from your ADSL2+ connection.  Once you’ve got the DSLAM that close, you can also look at using VDSL2 in the future for much higher bandwidth (100Mbit @ 500m, 50Mbit @ 1000m).  It’s also a stepping stone to providing Fibre to the Home even further down the track (replace DSLAMs with DWDM Optical Routers and splitters). </p>
<p>The approach being proposed by Telstra would have made it very difficult and expensive for competitors to provide their own DSLAMs using Telstra’s copper network.<br />
Depending upon your point of view, that’s either a good thing (“Competitors should build their own network!”) or a terrible thing (“The Australian people owned the network until recently, we should be able to use whatever provider we like”)</p>
<p>I’m of the opinion that regardless of how the network debate turns out — the hidden issue is the cost of data.  </p>
<p>Even if we all magically had 100Mbit ethernet connections at home tomorrow, and only paid for data transferred; Very few of us could afford to use it for those promised high-bandwidth applications — HD Video on Demand and such.</p>
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		<title>By: TwoDogs</title>
		<link>http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/2069/comment-page-1#comment-40285</link>
		<dc:creator>TwoDogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear! I hear you!
I have a choice of one provider, and they refuse to apologise or compensate for incorrectly shaping my service several times now.
Give me competition or give me...  the crap I&#039;m stuck with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear! I hear you!<br />
I have a choice of one provider, and they refuse to apologise or compensate for incorrectly shaping my service several times now.<br />
Give me competition or give me…  the crap I’m stuck with.</p>
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