atNickHodge Episode 8: The Lost Uncles
Reviewing the Show
- Too many umms and errs again. Got to remember to shut up when thinking. Silence for sub-seconds are ok. Could blame the slackness on my neck being out causing vagueness.
- More modulation in emotion when speaking
- Timing worked well. Missed the mid-point video due to time restrictions.
- Ten minutes before the show began, I restructured the flow (swapping Hodge and Roberts) for dramatic and story effect. A change that ultimately worked
- Post-show reviewing the chat stream: the amount of chatter vs. the viewer count seems to indicate people are listening. This seems to make my show a little less entertainment and more documentary/educational. Cool.
- The quotation from C.E.W. Bean at the end, which I had heard on a TV documentary and quickly found the original online, was a perfect book-end to the show. Very moving paragraph.
The Lost Uncles
Show Notes: These are the notes that I use to prompt me as I am presenting the show. The notes are not sentences, they are prompting phrases. There is usually extra information in the notes I do not get to mentioning. This is also good practice for SEO. Search engines cannot (yet) get inside the video.
Mid last year, Angus Hodge, the 1st person I will talk about tonight, appeared in an online personal family history site. Listed as a WW1 veteran.
Wow, lead me on a journey through personal histories.
National Archives of Australia http://www.naa.gov.au/
http://mappingouranzacs.naa.gov.au/
Provides ALL WW1 veteran personnel documents online
Can request WW2 details to be scanned and put into online (you pay, gets shared!)
Australian War Memorial online library: deeper research and unit histories
daily war diaries of WW1 units; written by the officers overview of the maps, movements, people and military events. Engagements are also detailed. Down to the “Company” ~ 100 men.
Book: Les Carlyon, on The Great War; largely follows the official histories, with political ‘colour’
Charles E. W. Bean: official historian, very humble man ‘of his time’ ; wrote of the individuals
More than reading the history books
Peter Fitzsimons, excellent books on Tobruk and Kokoda, with individual stories weaved into the bigger picture.
http://anzacday.gov.au/
Band-of-Brothers: it is greater than unit, country: it is about your mates. The guys next to you, around you
Thank the late Stephen Ambrose for the books
Many of these men remember their time: intensity, stay together. Some say the only people who really understand what they have gone through are their war colleauges.
Australian soldiers talked of Mateship and Cobbers; but ultimately looked after number 1.
No Geo-politics tonight, this is not about the Generals and Majors; nor the politicans
Especially rehashing the stories of Gallipoli and Kokoda
ABC’s Gallipoli web site is excellent
Will cover some larger background where appropriate; but only as an aside.
Nor military technology, the generals and majors, and the military-industry complex
Personally I’ve had a fascination with WW2, History and the Technology since I was about 10 years old. Continues to this day, and passed on some of that interest to Liam.
Contrary to the 1970s schooling of seemingly “forgetting” the war; was shunned as a topic, even in history as it was felt that we were glorifying war; even the general study of history itself was shunned.
When I was 8, learnt about Gallipoli (Simpson and his Donkey) and that was about it. Pretty benign view of the horrors of Gallipoli.
Gallipoli is described as a “birth of a nation” » many sentiments come from Bean
Australia was born in 1901.
Australia was a teenager at the time of Gallipoli.
It is here, as a teenager, we realised the world is big, dangerous
And our parents are not infallible.
It is the impact on the people afterwards. These impacts are significant, and they linger.
Also note that 207,000 Australians killed/wounded out of 330,000 soldiers. That’s a 65% casualty rate. Highest in British empire
Western Front: 5,500 men casualties at Fromelles: first major battle for ANZACs in France, one division, one night cf. Gallipoli over 28,000 casualities in 9 month campaign
Australians had been used, much as the Canadians, as shock troops by the British command wherever the line was most threatened, or where there was need to mount an attack.
The impact of WW1 across Australia’s population: massive, enduring
Wondered about psych makeup of John Winston Howard who’s father, grandfather and mother’s father served in WW1.
Lyall Howard diarist from WW1 front lines (documents) ; 19 years old, accepted even underheight
In battle, Lyall Howard was wounded by a mustard gas attack in Passchendaele and spent 10 weeks in hospital.[1][8] The gassing caused chronic bronchitis and skin rashes which would continue to plague him after the war (died of bronchitis aged 59)
“Lest We Forget” We must not forget. When anyone dies, remembering is important
Personal Military Heritage: Two late maternal great-Uncles who served in WW2 (Transport, Administration), Uncle post WW2 Australian Army, Father in RAN for 9 years. In essence, I am a navy brat (up to age of 5, anyways)
Stories of an long-lost Uncle on my late maternal grandmother’s side who was “lost” in the Second Boer War. But I cannot find evidence of this at the moment; not listed in the SA Boer war soldiers. Unless he was a Boer, which is possible.
Movies such as Breaker Morant and Gallipoli were formative of my world view
Touching RAAF-crewed Lancaster in Imperial War Museum
More recent research: Three of my Dad’s Great Uncles (and one Aunty) served in the (Army, RAAF) CMF within AU during WW2
Lonely Aunties: ladies who lost their fiances, husbands, fathers and sons
The impact lasts longer; the growth of CWA; lonely ladies with long memories
Wives of those who returned, who dealt with the silence and other impacts
Women played an important at-home role in both WW1 and WW2 ; ultimately drove many feminist reforms in the 20th century
Tonight: stories of Hodge, Lock, Mason and Roberts
Angus Hodge
http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/2564
Angus Hodge, aged 18 years and 2 months, Labourer of Laura South Australia
Pine Spring near, Laura, South Australia
SA ID B2824
assigned to D Coy, 43rd Battalion, 11th Brigade, 3rd Division: Monash’s boys (note: Lyall Howard, Signals in 3rd Division)
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/explore/defence/service-records/army-wwi.aspx
Note: when reading the individual reports you see lots of “sick, hospital” .. fails to show what happens on the line; best to be found in the War Diaries
http://www.awm.gov.au/units/unit_11230.asp
43rd Battalion War Diaries: http://www.awm.gov.au/diaries/ww1/folder.asp?folder=984
16/12/1916 “Berrima” to Devonport, UK (this ship was torpedoed off Portland 18 February 1917)
20÷1÷1917 Ship Hospital Sick, recurring Mumps during first year overseas.
11÷3÷1917 Joined 11th Brigade in UK
16÷4÷1917 Mumps recurred (Parkhouse)
4÷5÷1917 Discharged to “2nd Tng Bn Durrington“
30÷7÷1917 Southampton to France 11th Brigade to 3rd Division Base Depot Rouelles
24÷8÷1917 to 43 Bttn from Depot
[Btn training in August and September]
[22/9/1917 Sir Douglas Haig visited and inspected the 3rd Division Soldiers never saw the British Generals at the front, noting quality of Monash as a leader; compared to Sir Keith Murdoch (acted both as a journalist and govt agent in London), father of Rupert; and Charles E. W. Bean , famous Australian War Historian; was official war correspondent in 1914. ]
[from War Diary: 2nd Oct: Menin Road near Ypres; north of, known as Zonnebeke Attack , a part of Polygon Wood. 2am No man’s land, 6am, zero hour, took first line 800 yards.
DCoy formed finish line, CCoy in support; DCoy, right flank expected the most action. DCoy lost 2 officers before ‘jumping off’. The toll on officers during these campaigns is staggering
4÷10÷1917 wounded same place, Ypres; away 3 days at Field Ambulance, returned to unit 4 days later
8÷10÷1917 returned from schrapnel leg wound; time to move to Bremen Redoubt in Ypres Salient
16th October 1917 43rd had 40 men gassed (mustard) near Zonnebeke whilst working on a railway
[Nov: company training, Moved to Canteen Corner]
24/11/1917 to Hospital Sick (NYD) -> not yet determined; probably Flu
28/11/1917 returned to 43 Bttn
[Canteen Corner to the Line (trenches) Bois Grenier]
1÷1÷1918 to Hospital Sick (PUO) -> Fever (back and forth)
23÷2÷1918 returned to 43 Bttn, to the trenches at le Bizet
1÷3÷1918 On leave in the UK
[from March summary: “for 4 months after Ypres, the 43rd had been in and out of the quiet sectors of Bois Grenier and Le Bizet” … added 250 men in Dec 1917, but many were older, aged soldiers]
20÷3÷1918 returned to 43 Bttn, just in time to defend against German Spring Offensive (Operation Michael)
22÷3÷1918 moved to Heilly in the Somme
[30/3/1918 attack, rebuffed the same day, German Operation Michael]
[31st May 1918 Monash now Australian Corps commander, that is all Australian soldiers on the Western Front. 5 Divisions, under Australian command: as wanted by soldiers and politicians]
[Villers-Bretonneux; “vee-ay bretoner”: Phosgene and Yellow Cross/Mustard during May; During May, 25% of A-Company reported PUO. MO’s report states a platoon by platoon infection, Reg Insp cannot determine ‘flu, trench fever or PUO. May a total of 80 PUO cases evacuated from 43rd. 190 gas casualities at end of May. Out of the line late June]
[17/5/1918 Sir Douglas Haig, General Officer Commanding inspected DCoy, Allonville]
[3rd June: attack on 43rd, VB. Loss of 230 men (639 officers and ranks in early June!) in gas shelling of 25th and 26th May, consolidated D into ABC companies during May. DCoy was in the front line, most gas fell behind the lines. Rations purchased from money supplied from SA, from trade commissioner in London during June]
27th in support (William Roberts above in 27th)
[1/7/1918 addition of American troops; Pershing withdrew 1000 before the attack]
[4/7/1918 attack on Hamel ; extensive planning by Monash; DCoy was reformed and propped up with Americans; some 1000 used across this attack; some used to take prisoners rearward and mop up; E Coy 131st Reg US Inf]
[July 1918 attack on Hamel; Australians were the most experienced soldiers on the Western front; not determined by rank. 11th used north of Hamel; Mark V tanks used in the attack ; plus aircraft. “Early Blitzkrieg”, as copied by Guderian in the inter-war years; ]
The tactical methods had been tested by the Australians in a local counter-attack at the Battle of Hamel on 4 July. The German defenders of Hamel were deeply dug in, and their position commanded a very wide field of fire. Similar positions had resisted capture for two months in the Battle of the Somme. The Australians had used surprise rather than weight at Hamel. The artillery had opened fire only at the moment the infantry and tanks advanced, and the Germans were rapidly overrun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Amiens)
4÷8÷1918 Corbie, bivouacs behind the line; during August Angus was 1 of 7 wounded out of 67 fighting strength.
5÷8÷1918 Start of 93 minute attack; 437 casualities; at the time, most successful combined operation at the time.
11th Bgd were the northern-most (nearest Somme River) attack Battle of Amiens
Bashing against the Germans 2–3 times a day; August and September were the toughest battle time for the Anzacs on the Western Front; whilst attacks were better planned and more combined. Chalk and cheese compared to the Somme in 1916; ultimately were a spent force by October 1918.
March through November 23% of all prisoners captured, 20% of the ground. Only 10% of the British army
5÷8÷1918 reported in Hospital Sick — Embarked to UK within a few days (invalided)
10÷8÷1918 Admitted to St Johns, Cheltenham: Old Wounded Leg, Slight (place of casuality: Bristol)
[fracture 1912 due to fall from horse wound right shin bone at site of old injury away 3 days at field ambulance, return to unit. July 1918 wound broke down. evacuated, no operation]
24/10/1918 Furlo (R&R)
9÷11÷1918 returned to No 4 Depot (Class B1 A2)
16/11/1918 to 18/11/1918 “AWOL”, but dismissed by Major [note: others AWOL, too post Armistance]
11/12/1918 “Saxon” returned to Australia
26÷2÷1919 Keswick Army General Hospital
29÷3÷1919 discharged from the AIF 20% disability
Stories of soldiers returning to employment 2 weeks after returning from the war. Ted Smee; reported 1924 falling to the ground and vomiting during a fireworks attack; nervous breakdowns. It lasted longer than the 4 years, and what was gained?
[getting death certificate; seems he didnt move far from the farm with his parents upon his return]
23÷3÷1920 buried, Georgetown. Fell from farming equipment, head injury.
Temp. Sargeant Albert Earnest Lock
http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/1886
6th April 1917 — Assigned 102 Howitzer Battery, a part of 2nd Field Artillery Brigade, 1st Division Artillery, Australian 1st Divison. He manned one of the 4 x 4.5 inch howitzers in this Battery. He was one of 71 other ranks; a part of one section, 116th Howitzer Battery, also consisting of Major Harris and 2nd Lt C Groves.
16th May 1916 — Promoted to Corporal from Gunner
20th August 1917 — Promoted to Temp. Sgt from Corporal
22th August 1917 — Wounded in Action, remained on duty (Belgium) The War Diary for the 1st Division Artillery has no enemy action on this date.
Third Battle of Ypres
During this time, roads were clogged, difficult to move the heavy guns.
9th October 1917 — Died of Wounds / Killed in Action from shrapnel through the heart; during the Battle of Poelcappelle. (map) (a part of Passchendaele ). The 102 Howitzer Battery was firing on China Wood in a Search and Sweep at 11:27am. He was one of 9 ‘other ranks’ that died that week. This FAB was in action during these weeks of October 1917 during the Third Battle of Ypres.
Buried at Huts Cemetery, Dickebusch (Dikkebus), Belgium. (Divisional Diary of that Month); Plot 10, Row B, Grave 6.
Father was Albert Lock, stationmaster at Bridgewater, South Australia. Mother Mary Jessie Ann Lock. Sister, Sister Majorie Ellen Lock. Lock was a Clerk in the Railways for Eyre Peninsula; as prior to and after WW1, a railway was pushed from Port Lincoln up through the centre of Eyre Peninsula. Having entered the Artillery, he was potentially mathematical/surveyer. It is possible the town of Lock was one of many named by the SA Railways of KIA from WW1.
Lock is the larger town I grew up near, and went to school in. I remember the town memorial hall having a board containing the men who served, and died, in WW1 from the area. And dusty photos in the ante-rooms noone entered (except us kids) Then men deserved more than dusty pictures.
Pilot Officer, Donald William Mason. Born in Wagga, Lived in Orange, for the duration of the war, his family lived in Bathurst.
Research: Google Search Data
http://cas.awm.gov.au/photograph/P01899.002
MASON, Donald William — (Pilot Officer); Service Number — AUS 413220
Born 28th September 1918, Hairdresser and pastry chef; Married to Ann in 1938 and Daughter xxx 1940 (living in Bathurst, wife and father in law at same address in Bathurst, 61 Keppel Street)
Map Location
Enlisted 16 August 1941
Not admitted for sickness, no drunkeness, AWOL. Listed as VG (very good)
DH82, Wirraway; Qualified at Pilot 25th June 1942
Arrived in the UK 18th November 1942
27 July 1943, Operational 195 Sqdn, Change to 8th February 1944 198 Sqdn (both Hawker Typhoons)
Typhoons: powerful, yet large (7 tonnes); lots of armament and rockets (ground attack)
based at Thorney Island, UK (just to the east of Portsmouth, UK)
Map Location
http://www.198squadronraf.co.uk/ (RAAF, RCAF and FF in the RAF unit)
22nd March 1944, Commissioned at a Pilot Officer
More than 100 sorties, including many prior to D-Day (6th June 1944)
18th June 1944, listed as missing. Thury-Harcourt, France
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thury-Harcourt
Map Location
Shot down by Flak whilst attacking enemy transport
http://www.198squadronraf.co.uk/198sqdn_047.htm
Farmer had thought pilot had killed his father
Plane, and P/O Mason not found until 1992; remembered at Arromanches (49 years later)
Map Location
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=45563 (Boulon)
Hodge trip to Normandy; Band of Brothers, Liam and I had a personal interest
Our guide from http://Battlebus.fr/ , Geert, took us Musee de Embarkment in Arromanches
He had worked at the museum, and knew the Head Curator. Stating we were from Australia, she took us to the display of an RAAF uniform. Of a “Don Mason”
http://www.nickhodge.com/blog/archives/1304
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/464787540_7158ffd8ce_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/187/464795971_7bf3cdd5da_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/464787288_c18431cb06.jpg
Struck me: lone Australian in a sea of Canadian, French, British, American memories; lost in France, with a wife and 2 year old at home.
Private William Herbett Roberts
Private William Herbett Roberts, South Australian Serial 5693; B-Company, 27th Battalion, 7th Brigade, 2nd Division
Enlisted, 30÷1÷1916 (aged 18). Noted as a stockman, from Sheringa, South Australia (less than 20km from where I lived as a kid on a farm). The area is noted for sheep stations. And not much else
Whilst in Adelaide barracks, as a stockman and young; he was in the Base Light Horse for the months in the Army
9÷12÷1916 27th Bttn in the field, near Flers on the Somme
The 27th Battalion took part in two attacks to the east of Flers in the Somme Valley, both of which floundered in the mud. (the Maze, November 1916)
(Winter 1916/7 worst time in the field, coldest in Europe for 40 years, much trenchfoot, PUO; pyrexia of unknown origin )
14÷1÷1917 Trenchfoot , 19÷1÷1917 To England
March 1917 to 70th Bttn CMF (holding Bttn) until Sept/Oct; 27th was “off the line” for most part of 1917
11/10/1917 to France, Third Battle of Ypres; at the end of the campaign
20/10/1917, just after Anzac Ridge, Above Ypres; removed back to Railway Wood, then Steenyorde
Interesting note from October 13th : “Court of Inquiry held re Captain Hosking’s Horse lost a Ypres. Also re. missing men.” The horse inq lasted to next day; Roberts was one of “70 other ranks” joining the 27Btn from the 70Btn [BCoy, 15th reinforcements, 27th Btn]
On/off the line / trenches
Connecting the dots: Roberts (Anzac Ridge, Smiths Road between Westhoek and Zonnebeke), Lock (Behind Anzac Ridge, Smiths Road between Westhoek and Zonnebeke) and Hodge (Menenstaat)
27/10/1917 Westhoek Ridge, Albert Redoubt to relieve 59th Btn
29/10/1917 Chlorine and Mustard gas shelling, Patrol engagement around Celtic Wood
2÷11÷1917 Off the line, relieved by 20th Btn
1÷12÷1917 still off the line, Neue Eglise (diary notes v.cold)
15/12/1917 Ploegsteert , relieve 39th Btn; BCoy on right sector
20/12/1917 Phosgene Gas (rabbit eradication in 1970s)
24/12/1917 35th Btn Relieved 27th, Late December, many detachments of working parties to the front
2÷1÷1918 returned to Ploegsteert
9÷1÷1918 25th Btn relived the 27 Btn
27÷1÷1918 Locre, then Bellbrune
Feb 1918 off the line, Hennevaux area training
March 1918 7th Bgd releive 9th Bgd at Kortepyp; quiet zone
[21 March 1918, Operation Michael, German counter-attack]
April 1918 Albert Area on 9th (strength = 600 Officers and Ranks) ; more active area of the line
29÷4÷1918 7 Bgde relieved by 55th English Bdge
May 1918 Amiens area, training
19÷5÷1918 in reserve for 6 Bgd in Ancre, relieved by 26th Btn 26÷5÷1918
5÷6÷1918 Sailley-le-Sec
10÷6÷1918 attack
26÷6÷1918 pulled back to Allonville
27÷6÷1918 Villers-Bretonneaux ; in support for 11 Bgd
15÷7÷1918 Addressed by Lt Gen Sir John Monash
19÷7÷1918 relieved 23 Btn
25÷7÷1918 Tronville Wood
31÷7÷1918 788 Other Ranks in the Battalion
1÷8÷1918 White Chateau
8÷8÷1918 attack to the green line // First Battle of Amiens , biggest advance in allied movement and ground in WW1, “Blackest Day for Germany in WW1” // On 8 August, the battalion captured 9 artillery pieces, 25 machine guns and over 200 prisoners. // 7th Div first attack on first day.
9÷8÷1918 4.30pm attack, with Tanks, jumping off point Harbonieres/Framerville area; finished 5.20pm (a mere 50 minutes) (Rainecourt)
9 hospitalised wounded in this operation (127 wounded, 28 killed) Second day of First Amiens
9÷8÷1918 Operation for removal of FB [foreign body] in France 14 days, prior to England, 2 months recovery. One wound below, and slightly anterior to the left great trochanter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_trochanter (rear, high on femur, just below buttocks); grazing wound across 2 buttocks. Feet OK (spent time in hospital with trench foot)
To Australia 3÷1÷1919
Discharged 23÷3÷1919, listed with no lasting disability
Died, Port Lincoln in 1988 in his nineties.
Bill Roberts is my paternal Grandmother’s father. That is, my Great-Grandfather. If he had not returned, I would not be here. When he was 80 years old, I along with my parents visited him in his large bungalow on a hill, surrounded by a large garden, in Port Lincoln . I recall seeing a picture of him in uniform on the wall. I remember the sounds of the clocks, the age of the kitchen and his calmness.
Until I researched the above from the Archives, and the unit history: I had no idea what he experienced. 1916 hellish winter; Third Ypres and First Amien.
I will end the show with quotation from Charles E. W. Bean, from ‘Letters from France ’ (from Pozieres)
Steadfast until death — just the men that Australians at home know them to be. Into the place with a joke; a dry, cynical Australian joke as often as not, holding fast through anything that man can imagine. They’re not heroes. They do not intend to be thought or spoken of as heroes. They’re just ordinary Australians, doing their particular work as their country would wish them to do it. And pray God, Australians in days to come will be worthy of them.